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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:22:02 -0000

That's it? TIME, which had emnployed Whittaker Chambers, one columnist who was friends with Kissinger and the press misjudging a third rate burglary? Of course, Cronkite did that big Watergate story less that two weeks before Election Day too.

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:09:11 -0000

Raoul, read the book. Look up Time and Joe Kraft's coverage especially, and how the Post was the only paper to take Watergate seriously before the '72 election.

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Raoul Ortega — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:31:11 -0000

The media was quite friendly toward him.

It all depends, I guess, on what you mean by "friendly".

And Bennyonesix, I'll gladly pay you to take that chocolate cake off your hands. Then you can afford to refill that bong.

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:48:39 -0000

The media was quite friendly toward him.

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erp617 — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:44:43 -0000

Nixon wasn't mildly liberal and somewhat accommodating to the left, he was a lefty. The part about Hiss and Douglas could have been easily overcome if he had only kissed up to the media and paid homage to the Soviets.

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bennyonesix — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:30:58 -0000

sound of bong hitting floor

Wait...what?

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:28:32 -0000

Which makes you Canadian anyway.

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:28:12 -0000

He can't take his medication all the time because of the side effects, so he only uses it while he's writing books....

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bennyonesix — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:24:29 -0000

And I don't like chocolate cake. So, if HSA's are like chocolate cake, I am against them.

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bennyonesix — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:22:58 -0000

Is Perlestein insane?

He writes these well researched, balanced and thoughtful books but then acts like a feakin' frothing at the mouth maniac the rest of the time...

What is up with that dude?

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:49:02 -0000

Let them eat cake is sensible policy when everyone has cake, which is what Universal HSAs would provide.

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:47:44 -0000

Clinton's plan bore no resemblance to Canada's whatever, and HSA's make about as much sense as policy as "let them eat cake."

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:35:04 -0000

Bingo! Had Clinton and Gingrich done universal HSAs and personal SS the Third Way would be nearly implemented.

But he handed healthcare to Hillary and she went all Canadian as is your guys wont.

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:32:21 -0000

Just finished last night. It should be called Johnsonville though, since he did what you suggest with his artificial mandate and tore the country apart.

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:12:42 -0000

If Clinton had passed healthcare, OJ would be the front ranks defending it from the right as a dialectically inevitable Third Way capstone.

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:11:24 -0000

I mean "betrayal of his campaign promises"

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Rick Perlstein — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:10:44 -0000

Orrin, have you read the book yet? I think you'll find my representation of this issue is considerably more complex than either most reviewers or your own under-informed (or incomprehending) claims about it suggest.

Quicker version of the argument about whether and how Nixon was a liberal and/or a conservative and what that might mean here:

http://www.ourfuture.org/bl...

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:47:13 -0000

It was what he did to Hiss and Helen Gahagan Douglas. After that he could ever be forgiven.

Tow Wicker's book, One of Us, is excellent on how little Nixon differed from the mainstream of the Democratic Party during his presidency.

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Shelton — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:12:18 -0000

Maybe you elders can explain something to someone who wasn't born until Carter. Was there something akin to Nixon Derangement Syndrome during his rule? Because my reading of Nixon policy and history show him to be, well, mildly liberal and somewhat accommodating to the left. Was it a personality thing or what?

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Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:04:20 -0000

Actually, my point is that the 60 Senator goal that was widely talked about a year or so ago has always been laughable since it's so obviously unattainable. The 250 Representative number isn't one I've ever heard and is probably equally absurd, but I wouldn't doubt that Mr. Perlstein and his pals think that it's a safe bet since they probably think that it's a sure bet that Unicorn Boy is going to win 60% of the popular vote.

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orrinj — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:40:16 -0000

Don't you guys get how a Vanguard works....

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Ibid — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:38:03 -0000

I don't know if this is the point b is making, but Obama is not going to wake up as President on January 20, 2009 even if he wins the election -- unless, that is, he sleeps past noon and misses the inauguration.

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Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:02:14 -0000

"If, on the morning of January 20, 2009, Barack Obama should wake up to find himself president, with 60 senators and 250 representatives..."

Tee-hee. I better start my plans for what to do if I wake up tomorrow with a billion dollars in my bank account...

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Ibid — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:38:04 -0000

Civilize = Europeanize

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Bryan — Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:31:32 -0000

Twn-
Yeah I rolled my eyes at that one, too. That's some good old fashioned self-righteous smug right there.